2025-12-29 – Weekly CRNA News : Recalibrating intraop MAP targets?

Last week’s forum discussions were rich with practical insights and shared experiences from the CRNA community. Members delved into the intricacies of EPIC hard stops, shared strategies for pre-induction pauses, and debated the recalibration of intraoperative MAP targets. The exchange of ideas on effective pre-induction checks and the challenges posed by last-minute schedule changes also featured prominently. There’s a continuing focus on how educational initiatives can tangibly reduce error rates.


This Week’s Hot Topics

I now dream in EPIC hard stops
EPIC hard stops are a reality for many, and this thread explores how they impact daily workflow and patient care.
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Pre-induction pause that actually helps
Members discuss the value of a well-executed pre-induction pause and how it can improve patient outcomes.
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Pre-induction checks you never skip
A conversation about the critical checks that CRNAs consider non-negotiable before induction.
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Are we recalibrating intraop MAP targets
This thread questions whether our current MAP targets during procedures need an update.
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The add-on fairy strikes at 0659
A light-hearted yet serious look at how last-minute add-ons affect the start of our day.
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Syringe labels vs. a 0700 start
Balancing the need for accurate syringe labeling with the pressure of early starts.
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Max lidocaine dose: IBW or TBW
A technical discussion on whether to use ideal or total body weight for lidocaine dosing.
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Hands-on pediatric ultrasound blocks CE
Exploring the benefits and practical aspects of hands-on CE in pediatric ultrasound techniques.
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CE that measurably lowers error rates
An ongoing dialogue about continuing education programs that effectively minimize mistakes.
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AIMS device feeds: time saved, noise added
The pros and cons of automated information management systems in the OR.
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Have a great week ahead, and thank you for being an engaged part of our community.

I’ve stopped treating “MAP 65” as a religion and, for chronically hypertensive patients, aim for within about 20% of their clinic baseline; during the pre-induction pause we pull the last BP, set NIBP q2 min for the first 15 min, and have phenyl/vaso ready. I still default to at least 65 for low-risk, but tighten to 75–80 in CAD/CKD or head/neck cases. Would love to see an EPIC hard stop or smartphrase that auto-populates a patient-specific target.

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During the EPIC pre-induction pause, I set a MAP floor banner and auto-cycle q1min for 10 minutes, @Guide.

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Quick example: for carotid or elderly HTN cases I level the A-line to the tragus and set a ‘MAP floor’ at that reference, which makes the cuff read about 10 higher, so I’ll start low-dose norepi early rather than chase phenyl boluses; @m_jones91 do you adjust targets for leveling or stick with cuff MAP?

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For HTN patients I pull the last three clinic BPs and aim to stay within about 15–20% of that median, rechecking the reference after any big position change, and if PPV/SVV is high I correct preload before dialing up norepi… I’ll add cerebral oximetry for beach-chair or carotids as a sanity check — “don’t chase 65 blindly” only works if the brain agrees, which feels more like Waze than cruise control. @Guide, curious if anyone has an EPIC flowsheet calc that shows % deviation from baseline in real time.

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