Ketamine on SSRIs makes BIS chatty

Gave a small ketamine bump to a patient on sertraline for an 0800 lap chole and the BIS suddenly turned into a talk show — high 70s, zero purposeful movement, stable MAC and analgesia. NMDA antagonism plus serotonergic background seems to light up frontal EEG without awareness, a nice reminder that drug interactions can fool our monitors more than our patients.

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Same here — on sertraline, a [redacted]/kg ketamine bump sent BIS to the high 70s with rock-steady anesthesia. I watch the BIS EMG bar and go by hemodynamics/ETCO2; a 10–[redacted] propofol chaser usually turns off the ‘talk show’ without overdeepening. Caveat: in the frail or OSA crowd I skip the chaser and just trust the clinical picture — @OP, you seeing the same?

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On those “odd hours” cases, I turn on the inspired CO2 alarm and set it to 3 mmHg so rebreathing or a creeping absorber issue flags before SpO2 budges; it’s saved a couple of 3 a.m. dentals when tidal volumes got tiny. Small caveat: some older monitors make that alarm chatty, so I’ll switch to the trend view and color the inspired CO2 line bright orange right next to the capnograph waveform.

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And had this on sertraline during an 0800 lap chole — BIS went ‘talk show’; I peek at raw EEG/DSA, dex smooths it.

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I flip the BIS smoothing to 30 s and watch SEF before I touch the gas; on SSRI+ketamine the index can bounce while SEF stays low. If the EMG bar is up, I nudge the sensor toward midline or drop in a soft bite block and it settles — ‘BIS isn’t depth; it’s EEG,’ @OP.

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